10 problems with the book of mormon moroni

But moroni s ministry goes on today as a messenger for our time. And again, i exhort you, my brethren, that ye deny not the gifts of god, for they are many. Moroni, as a mortal man, was the last author of the book of mormon, burying the metal plates upon which it was recorded, some 421 years after the birth of christ. I love that i can go to my god, my heavenly father, and seek truth from him directly. Previous editions of the letter contained a detailed list of alleged problems with the book of mormon. Its nothing more than a charismatic and imaginative con mans novel, and while it definitely has its moments, it reeks of amateurism. That is because from a very real perspective, mormons consider the alleged fact that the book of mormon is true to be in and of itself more important than any of the alleged truths it contains. May 02, 2019 moroni indicates that he and his father mormon wrote in a script called reformed egyptian.

Thus the book of mormon was translated by the gift and power of god and not by man david whitmer, an address to all believers in christ concord, ca. Many have wondered what reformed egyptian might be and why book of mormon recordkeepers wrote in such a script. While there are many objective reasons to reject the book of mormon1 and joseph smiths claims to prophethood,2 most mormon s would argue that they have a testimony directly from the holy spirit of god that supersedes any appeal to logic, reason, historical evidence, or even scripture. There are multitudes of problems withe the book of mormon, not the least of which is the fact that much of the later official doctrine of the church contradicts much of the book of mormons doctrine. The book of mormon offers a remarkable promise to those. It is often presented as a singular promise for engaging with the text, knowing the book of mormon is true, and thus becoming converted to the lds church. Mormon is allegedly a prophethistorian who was the native american believed by mormons to have written the book of mormon the main religious text of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints mormonism. Mormon and moroni discuss problems of church governance in their epistles, and moroni probably would have had firsthand experience with these procedures 10. Reading speed autoscroll paragraphs autoadvance to next chapter chapter 10. The church teaches that moroni was an ancient prophet who led mormonisms founder, joseph smith, to the golden plates from which the book of mormon was translated. The decision to use the word challenge came from a remark by president spencer w. Bill mckeever explains why the book of mormon is not all that the mormon missionaries tout it to be. Discussions on the book of mormon moroni 8 10 duration.

Fourth nephi through moroni, from zion to destruction. A knowledge of the truth of the book of mormon or of the church of jesus christ of. Before i get flamed i would like to point out three of the more glaring anachronistic errors. And if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in christ, and he will manifest the truth of it unto you by the power of the holy ghost. Downloads female voice mp3 male voice mp3 entire book pdf footnotes.

Now, some critics also claim that smith gained most of his theories from a manuscript of a novel written by solomon spaulding. The promise is made in the very last chapter of the book of mormon that if i want to know about its truthfulness i. This organization, as did the much larger utah mormon church and many smaller divisions, developed as a direct result. The author of the text needed to keep track of many details in order to produce a text this complex, consistent, and rich. An epistle of my father, mormon, written to me, moroni. The book of mormon department of christian defense. Treasures from the book of mormonvolume four 3 nephi 8 moroni 10 4th voume w. Furthermore, he seems to acknowledge the same problem christians like. The book of mormon is supposed to be the account of people who came from the middleeast to the americas. Book of mormon alma 17moroni 10 learning assessment. The writer of the last book of the book of mormon, moroni, the son of mormon, seals.

Moronis promise the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Does genetics support the idea of the book of mormon story. Approaching the book of mormon with a healthy skepticism 1. Which book alma moroni covers the longest time period. History of the text of the book of mormon royal skousen volume 3 parts 5 and 6 11520 duration.

There are maybe various ways to interpret this data, but it seems clear to me that the angel moroni was a given for most of the established years of the church, and since the 2010s the church has decided unambiguously to remove the angel moroni to the extent that the majority of newer temples being planned will not have the statue i think this falls in line with the deemphasis of the name. First nephi through omni are written in firstperson narrative, as are mormon and moroni. While there is much that is unknown about reformed egyptian, some clues about its nature emerge from a close reading of the book of mormon text and comparison with other realworld ancient. Book of mormon assessment alma 17 moroni 10 jeopardy.

And i would that they should know that more than four hundred and twenty years have passed away since the sign was given of the coming of christ. Dec 04, 2009 discussions on the book of mormon moroni 8 10 duration. Discussions on the book of mormon moroni 8 10 youtube. As we will see, moroni takes that love to be the heart of the gospel. Kimball in his first press conference after he became president of the church. I do not have to rely on my own wisdom and learning, or anyone elses. Lds church members are taught that the book of mormon bom is scripture, as well as a true record of the inhabitants of the americas from about 2200 bc to 420 ad. The heading for chapter 10 of moroni states that this last chapter of the book of mormon was written about a.

According to moroni, how do we gain a testimony of the book of mormon. There are, however, serious logical and biblical problems with this. Mormonism is a religion less than two centuries old, but in this short time it has managed to accrue a long list of embarrassments which the church leaders would prefer were kept. It tells of the jaredites, people from the tower of babel who came to central america but perished because of their own immorality. Moroni 9 handouts for alpine north stake book of mormon.

Book of mormon central, how can barley in the book of mormon feed faith. Much research has been devoted to identifying and examining language patterns in the book of mormon that appear to reflect the book s underlying semitic character. He followed in the footsteps of his father, mormon after whom the book of mormon is named as keeper of an ancient record detailing the history and eventual destruction of their people, the nephites, by their enemies, the lamanites. The book of moroni, chapter 10 heading, book of mormon. Of course, if anyone prays about the book of mormon and has a clear inner testimony that it is not true as many people have or fails to have any emotional experience at all as many others have, the mormon can write them off as obviously not having asked with a sincere. The plates were carried to fayette by moroni in a bundle on his back. Book of mormon difficulties, contradictions and explanations. Moroni, the last of the nephite prophets religious studies center. Moroni shares a name with captain moroni, a much earlier book of mormon figure, of whom mormon wrote highly. Moroni 10 also contains an amazing statement in verse 32, a statement that i. How has reading, pondering, and praying about the book of mormon impacted your life. Moroni 9 handouts for alpine north stake book of mormon class. How often does the savior do the will of the father. Jul 14, 2016 joseph smith claimed that the book of mormon is the most correct book in the world, and that a man could get closer to god by reading it than any other book.

There are several passages in the book of mormon that promise a. As you conclude this study of the book of mormon, look for these principles. And on this wise did he write unto me, saying, my beloved son moroni, i rejoice exceedingly that your lord jesus christ hath been mindful of. Mormons consider the book of mormon a compilation of historical records kept by the primary ancestors of the native americans. And by the power of the holy ghost ye may know the truth of all things, moroni 10. For example, critics of mormonism have shown convincing proof that the book of mormon is a synthesis of earlier works written by other men, of the vivid imaginings of joseph smith, and of plagiarisms from the king james bible. Top 10 embarrassments of the mormon religion listverse.

Jesus, the sacrament prayers, the priesthood, and church discipline in 3 nephi 18 and moroni 26 in journal of book of mormon studies, 51 spring 1996, pp. They discuss the last recorded correspondence between mormon and. The book of mormon claims that moroni, a prophet, originally wrote the book and that it was translated by joseph smith. What are the two problems the brother of jared has with the barges and what are the solutions. Moroni 1, known as captain moroni, nephite military commander c. As moroni says, we must have real intent while having faith in christ.

Moroni writes for the benefit of the lamanitesthe nephites who will not deny christ are put to death. Criticism of mormonismwebsitesmormonthinkbook of mormon. Treasures from the book of mormonvolume four 3 nephi 8 moroni 10 4th voume. It was first published in march 1830 by joseph smith as the book of mormon. The problem at hand usually arises when a person receives a testimony and has an incorrect understanding of the church or gospel. Moronis final exhortations in moroni 10, journal of the book of mormon and other restoration scripture 221 20. These plates were supposedly written 1,400 years ago and detailed the history of the jewish nephites from 600 b. Ainsworth takes the reader on an incredible journey as he pieces together the amazing lives of two remarkable men. Their centrality in moronis writings reflects two dimensions of his own experience. Moroni s final exhortations in moroni 10 journal of the book of mormon and other restoration scripture 221 20. Literary problems in the book of mormon involving 1 corinthians 12, and other new testament books sidney b.

Treasures from the book of mormonvolume four 3 nephi 8. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which adherents believe contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the american continent from approximately 2200 bc to ad 421. Now i, moroni, write somewhat as seemeth me good, and i write unto my brethren the lamanites. Smith, barley in ancient america, in reexploring the book of mormon. In chapter 2, moroni also fulfills a promise made by mormon that he would give evidence that the lord gave the nephite twelve disciples the power to give the holy ghost 3 nephi 18. Professors from the byu department of ancient scripture discuss the final chapters of the book of mormon. It tells of the jaredites, people from the tower of babel who came to. Why did mormon and moroni write in reformed egyptian. In addition, the very content of the book of mormon makes it impossible to accept it as divine revelation. Literary problems in the book of mormon involving 1. Smith points out that the 360day year of mesoamerica seems to solve the problem nicely, and argues that what critics saw as a gaffe actually adds to the plausibility of the book of mormon as an.

Literary problems in the book of mormon involving 1 corinthians 12, and other new testament books abstract. The book of mormon tells that moroni served under his father, the commander in chief of 23 groups of about 10,000 nephites each, who battled against the lamanites. My topic for discussion here is the challenge of the book of mormon. The only bible that joseph smith relied on was the king james version. An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates taken from the plates of nephi, who claimed that it had been. Book of mormon index of topics mormonism research ministry.

Joseph smith said that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on. Moroni was the last known survivor of the nephite nation. A collection of notes about the book of mormon, from a faithful perspective. The book of mormon is set in north america in the first century. Book of mormon, 1840, page 0 the joseph smith papers. When missionaries are confronted with arguments against the book of mormon, they are taught to ignore the evidence and pray to see if the book of mormon is true. Moroni x 10 book of mormon study text mormons in transition. An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates taken from the plates of nephi. The author of this paper was born into a family which belonged to the reorganized church of jesus christ of latter day saints with headquarters in independence, missouri. Thus, by refusing to test the book of mormon by moroni 10. On the flip side, if moroni s promise is false that is, the truth of the book of mormon cannot or will not be revealed through prayer via the holy ghost then so is the rest of the book of mormon. Book of mormon commentary moroni 9 1 moroni 9 moroni 9 preface the great prophet mormon set another example worthy of emulation.

Moroni is the ascribed author of chapters 8 and 9 of mormon s record within the larger book of mormon, the entire book of moroni, and the title page of the book of. Moroni s book of mormon promise to a staggering degree, the entire mormon religion hinges upon these 3 verses in the book of mormon moroni 10. This means that anything mentioned in the book of mormon takes place from approximately 2200 bc to approximately 421 ad. An account written by the hand of mormon, upon plates taken from the plates of nephi. Undeniable archaeological evidence of the book of mormon in north america duration. Joseph smith said that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to god by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book history of the church, vol. Gods spirit works in many different ways, bringing his gifts to humanity for their profit. Critics of the church use this older letter as proof that the book of mormon has no archaeological support and is therefore false. A previous edition of the letter contained a detailed list of alleged problems with the book of mormon. See also cook, david whitmer interviews, 11415, 197. There were no gifts from the lord, and the holy ghost did not come upon any, because of their wickedness and unbelief. The book of mormon claims to be a translation of ancient writing on gold plates. If you have a bible study with them, they will ask you to pray over the book of mormon. Nov 21, 2018 the book of mormon is claimed to be the most correct book on earth and the keystone of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints.

The entire book of mormon, all 239 chapters of it, analyzed, criticized, and, admittedly, mocked. A testimony of the book of mormon comes by the power of the holy ghostthe gifts of the spirit are dispensed to the faithfulspiritual gifts always accompany faithmoronis words speak from the dustcome unto christ, be perfected in him, and sanctify your souls. Of course, this method of translation is as occultic as it gets. Moroni s final exhortations in moroni 10, journal of the book of mormon and other restoration scripture 221 20. The literary problem caused by the parallels between moroni 7 10 and 1 corinthians 12 can be explained if one realizes that moroni had access to the same teachings of christ as.

The ancient near east journal of book of mormon studies, vol. And i seal up these records after i have spoken a few words by way of exhortation unto you. Hear what these scriptural scholars have to say about the last record between mormon and moroni and the final promise of the book of mormon. The challenge of the book of mormon religious studies center. Jul 30, 2019 the book of mormon claims that moroni, a prophet, originally wrote the book and that it was translated by joseph smith. The author of the book of mormon must have had a lot of notes and a lot of time.